Discussion:
[openbox] Video overlay / nvidia-drivers weirdness
meino.cramer
2014-04-19 10:44:14 UTC
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Hi,

I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.

Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.

Versions:
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)

Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.

Openbox is configure to have 8 desktops, throw which one can
circle back and forth :)

The the problem arises after starting applications, which uses
opengl/direct rendering/cuda or such things:

For example: After mutt starts, I switch von desktop to the left
(going from desktop 1 to 8).
There I start me-tv, a dvb-t tv application.
When I switch back to 1 (going to the right), the window decorations
of me-tb remain on desktop 8 but the video itsself does not disappear
even mutt becomes the focus.

Now I click on mutt, go back to 8 (desktop with me-tv running) and
back to 1 (mutt) and the problem "has gone" (the effect is no longer
visible).

Then I go to desktop 2 (to the right).
I start Blender (another heavy opengl/rendering user) and start
rendering. Regardless which window has the focus and to what desktop
I will change: As soon Blender updates the rendering window, I got
fragments of it thrown onto the current desktop makeing it complete
graphical garbage. ^L unfortunately does not work on graphical
displays... ;(

I recompiled everything I could find which is dependant of the
nvidia-drivers and does not help. Since I tried very old and very new
versions of that driver I dont think, that this driver is "guilty"...

As a test I installed fluxbox and the problem went away.

But I dont want fluxbox and want my openbox back.

Any ideas what I can do further to eliminate that problem?

Thanks a lot for any help!
Best regards,
mcc
Dana Jansens
2014-04-19 12:30:48 UTC
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Post by meino.cramer
Hi,
I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.
Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)
Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.
Do you run a compositor in your autostart like xcompmgr or anything like
that?
Post by meino.cramer
Openbox is configure to have 8 desktops, throw which one can
circle back and forth :)
The the problem arises after starting applications, which uses
For example: After mutt starts, I switch von desktop to the left
(going from desktop 1 to 8).
There I start me-tv, a dvb-t tv application.
When I switch back to 1 (going to the right), the window decorations
of me-tb remain on desktop 8 but the video itsself does not disappear
even mutt becomes the focus.
Now I click on mutt, go back to 8 (desktop with me-tv running) and
back to 1 (mutt) and the problem "has gone" (the effect is no longer
visible).
Then I go to desktop 2 (to the right).
I start Blender (another heavy opengl/rendering user) and start
rendering. Regardless which window has the focus and to what desktop
I will change: As soon Blender updates the rendering window, I got
fragments of it thrown onto the current desktop makeing it complete
graphical garbage. ^L unfortunately does not work on graphical
displays... ;(
I recompiled everything I could find which is dependant of the
nvidia-drivers and does not help. Since I tried very old and very new
versions of that driver I dont think, that this driver is "guilty"...
As a test I installed fluxbox and the problem went away.
But I dont want fluxbox and want my openbox back.
Any ideas what I can do further to eliminate that problem?
Thanks a lot for any help!
Best regards,
mcc
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openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
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meino.cramer
2014-04-19 12:40:51 UTC
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Post by Dana Jansens
Post by meino.cramer
Hi,
I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.
Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)
Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.
Do you run a compositor in your autostart like xcompmgr or anything like
that?
No...pure ol' openbox. The one. The only :)
Before update this setup has worked for a looooong time...
Post by Dana Jansens
Post by meino.cramer
Openbox is configure to have 8 desktops, throw which one can
circle back and forth :)
The the problem arises after starting applications, which uses
For example: After mutt starts, I switch von desktop to the left
(going from desktop 1 to 8).
There I start me-tv, a dvb-t tv application.
When I switch back to 1 (going to the right), the window decorations
of me-tb remain on desktop 8 but the video itsself does not disappear
even mutt becomes the focus.
Now I click on mutt, go back to 8 (desktop with me-tv running) and
back to 1 (mutt) and the problem "has gone" (the effect is no longer
visible).
Then I go to desktop 2 (to the right).
I start Blender (another heavy opengl/rendering user) and start
rendering. Regardless which window has the focus and to what desktop
I will change: As soon Blender updates the rendering window, I got
fragments of it thrown onto the current desktop makeing it complete
graphical garbage. ^L unfortunately does not work on graphical
displays... ;(
I recompiled everything I could find which is dependant of the
nvidia-drivers and does not help. Since I tried very old and very new
versions of that driver I dont think, that this driver is "guilty"...
As a test I installed fluxbox and the problem went away.
But I dont want fluxbox and want my openbox back.
Any ideas what I can do further to eliminate that problem?
Thanks a lot for any help!
Best regards,
mcc
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openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
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openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
Mikael Magnusson
2014-04-22 19:41:32 UTC
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Post by meino.cramer
Post by Dana Jansens
Post by meino.cramer
Hi,
I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.
Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)
Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.
Do you run a compositor in your autostart like xcompmgr or anything like
that?
No...pure ol' openbox. The one. The only :)
Before update this setup has worked for a looooong time...
I had the same problem with the 334.21 drivers. However, it seems it's
not possible to use that driver with xorg 1.14 nor 325.15 with xorg
1.15. I only had the problem with the xorg 1.15 + 334.21 combo. The
bug is either in xorg 1.15 or the nvidia driver.
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Mikael Magnusson
meino.cramer
2014-04-23 15:36:22 UTC
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Post by Mikael Magnusson
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Dana Jansens
Post by meino.cramer
Hi,
I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.
Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)
Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.
Do you run a compositor in your autostart like xcompmgr or anything like
that?
No...pure ol' openbox. The one. The only :)
Before update this setup has worked for a looooong time...
I had the same problem with the 334.21 drivers. However, it seems it's
not possible to use that driver with xorg 1.14 nor 325.15 with xorg
1.15. I only had the problem with the xorg 1.15 + 334.21 combo. The
bug is either in xorg 1.15 or the nvidia driver.
--
Mikael Magnusson
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
Why is all fine if replacing openbox with fluxbox?
--
Meino Cramer
Mikael Magnusson
2014-04-25 11:25:09 UTC
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Post by meino.cramer
Post by Mikael Magnusson
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Dana Jansens
Post by meino.cramer
Hi,
I am runnig Gentoo Linux on a AMD64 machine using openbox
as my preferred windowmanager.
Recently with an update of the system beside other things
the nvidia-drivers and the xorg-server were updated.
(tried all of them)
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-304.121
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-337.12
x11-wm/openbox-3.5.2-r1
x11-wm/openbox-9999 (Gentoo nameing for "developper snapshot)
Openbox is started via slim (login manager), which executes
autostart.sh, which (beside other things) mutt in a urxvt
terminal.
Do you run a compositor in your autostart like xcompmgr or anything like
that?
No...pure ol' openbox. The one. The only :)
Before update this setup has worked for a looooong time...
I had the same problem with the 334.21 drivers. However, it seems it's
not possible to use that driver with xorg 1.14 nor 325.15 with xorg
1.15. I only had the problem with the xorg 1.15 + 334.21 combo. The
bug is either in xorg 1.15 or the nvidia driver.
Why is all fine if replacing openbox with fluxbox?
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=server-1.15-branch&id=eec04d76a39a7334de4e00ef9f0f6e44c92b3d91
This commit looks suspiciously relevant. I haven't tried it yet, but
if you have time, please test xorg-server 1.15.1 and report back.
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Mikael Magnusson
Jamie Macdonald
2014-04-25 20:48:42 UTC
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I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I still
experience this issue on openbox.
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meino.cramer
2014-04-26 13:52:38 UTC
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Post by Jamie Macdonald
I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I still
experience this issue on openbox.
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x11-base/xorg-server
Installed versions: 1.14.5

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Installed versions: 337.12

x11-wm/openbox
Installed versions: 9999 (development snapshot as far as I know, it
is the way Gentoo say "bleeding edge")

This works for me as far as it seems...

Best regards,
E R
2014-04-26 22:55:35 UTC
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Slackware 14.1
xorg-server-1.14.3
nvidia 331.67

No nvidia weirdness here, just thought I'd share... :)
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Jamie Macdonald
I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I still
experience this issue on openbox.
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
x11-base/xorg-server
Installed versions: 1.14.5
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Installed versions: 337.12
x11-wm/openbox
Installed versions: 9999 (development snapshot as far as I know, it
is the way Gentoo say "bleeding edge")
This works for me as far as it seems...
Best regards,
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
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E R
2014-04-26 23:50:07 UTC
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337.12 works ok for me too...
Post by E R
Slackware 14.1
xorg-server-1.14.3
nvidia 331.67
No nvidia weirdness here, just thought I'd share... :)
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Jamie Macdonald
I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I
still
Post by Jamie Macdonald
experience this issue on openbox.
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
x11-base/xorg-server
Installed versions: 1.14.5
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Installed versions: 337.12
x11-wm/openbox
Installed versions: 9999 (development snapshot as far as I know, it
is the way Gentoo say "bleeding edge")
This works for me as far as it seems...
Best regards,
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
_______________________________________________
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openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
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Mikael Magnusson
2014-04-29 04:40:06 UTC
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Post by E R
337.12 works ok for me too...
Post by E R
Slackware 14.1
xorg-server-1.14.3
nvidia 331.67
No nvidia weirdness here, just thought I'd share... :)
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Jamie Macdonald
I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I still
experience this issue on openbox.
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
x11-base/xorg-server
Installed versions: 1.14.5
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Installed versions: 337.12
x11-wm/openbox
Installed versions: 9999 (development snapshot as far as I know, it
is the way Gentoo say "bleeding edge")
This works for me as far as it seems...
Best regards,
Maybe it was just 334 that doesn't work on 1.15 then, not the other
way around. It definitely seems like there's a problem in xorg-server
then? Anyone volunteer to git bisect it?
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Mikael Magnusson
Mikael Magnusson
2014-09-13 10:08:23 UTC
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According to someone [1], it should work with the latest nvidia-drivers now.


[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74651
Post by Mikael Magnusson
Post by E R
337.12 works ok for me too...
Post by E R
Slackware 14.1
xorg-server-1.14.3
nvidia 331.67
No nvidia weirdness here, just thought I'd share... :)
Post by meino.cramer
Post by Jamie Macdonald
I am running Xorg version 1.15.1, nvidia 337.12, and can say that I still
experience this issue on openbox.
_______________________________________________
openbox mailing list
openbox at icculus.org
http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
x11-base/xorg-server
Installed versions: 1.14.5
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Installed versions: 337.12
x11-wm/openbox
Installed versions: 9999 (development snapshot as far as I know, it
is the way Gentoo say "bleeding edge")
This works for me as far as it seems...
Best regards,
Maybe it was just 334 that doesn't work on 1.15 then, not the other
way around. It definitely seems like there's a problem in xorg-server
then? Anyone volunteer to git bisect it?
--
Mikael Magnusson
--
Mikael Magnusson
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